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Re: By popular demand - The Board Game thread
« Reply #15: March 06, 2015, 06:36:19 AM »
Heroica was a cool idea, but I felt like it could do with some houseruling, especially where combat was involved. It's been a long time since we played it, though, so I don't really remember what it was that I thought needed changing.

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« Reply #16: March 06, 2015, 06:56:22 AM »
Heroica was a cool idea, but I felt like it could do with some houseruling, especially where combat was involved. It's been a long time since we played it, though, so I don't really remember what it was that I thought needed changing.

The main problem is that the heroes can't fail. If they run out of life points they just rest for a couple turns and then get back to it. It's actually a race game where the winner is the first player to kill the boss. This is fine for little kids but it gets a bit dull for anyone else. It's easy enough to change that though and with a little effort you can hack out a decent campaign from it. I added mummys from Rameses Pyramid for extra baddies and Pirates from Pirates Plank as untrustworthy friends. Also, with four boxes I have four dice so I could swapthe faces around and make some higher level dice to add a bit of variety and progression.

I'm thinking of going back to it and using it as game pieces for Warrior, Rogue & Mage or some OSR D&D varient.

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« Reply #17: March 06, 2015, 07:02:52 AM »
For six-year-olds try the Fluxx card games. They are silly and massively random but kids love them because they look complex and yet the kids win half the time. I like Martian Fluxx and Zombie Fluxx the best but they are all fine so if your kid wants Space Fluxx or Monty Python Fluxx go for it.

We have Monty Python Fluxx at home, and one of the guys in the office has the vanilla version, and I'm not a massive fan of the totally random nature of it (one of the main things I dislike about Munchkin as well). It's funny the first couple of times, but it doesn't take long to see all the cards and the fact that the victory condition can change at any point - depending on the pick up/play rules, it can be mandatory to change the goal - means there's no strategy to it at all, and you can end up being forced to play a card that causes another player to instantly win if they have the right stuff (which was all just garbage a second ago). Plus the Creepers (that can't be gotten rid of) that just arbitrarily block you from ever winning.

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« Reply #18: March 06, 2015, 07:11:55 AM »
OK, two games I have played with the boy then.  Not as cool as the games you're all recommending but it's all in the spirit of the thread.

Maponimoes is pretty good.  (We've got the Europe set)  It's a spin on dominoes (hence the name) but every card is a country.  When you lay a card one of its borders has to match a real-life equivalent - so for instance you could lay Spain next to Portugal, or Ireland next to the United Kingdom.  However it doesn't have to be laid down on the correct side, so Portugal could be north of Spain or Ireland could be east of the United Kingdom.  You quickly end up with a bizarre alternate-world map that sort of resembles the real world but has Ukraine next to Norway.  It's more fun with more players and can get quite devious as people try to block the poor sod that's ended up with San Marino or Vatican City.

The London Board Game was bought by a well-meaning grandparent and is utter rubbish.  You too can recreate the thrill of a grinding, soul-destroying daily commute by moving your pieces endlessly around the Tube map.  You have to pick up a card every turn and almost all of them involve you being sent somewhere random or having the ability to put another player wherever you want on the board.  It's therefore pointless even attempting to play this properly because sooner or later you'll just end up somewhere totally different with no control over what you're doing.  This probably seemed hilarious to the marketing wonks who made this rubbish up but it's a terrible, terrible game.

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Re: By popular demand - The Board Game thread
« Reply #19: March 06, 2015, 07:15:33 AM »
I actually thought that the addition of Creepers improved the game massively as they give a bit more structure to the game. They are most fun in Zombie and Martin Fluxx though where there lots of Creepers and plenty of ways to move them around the table. They are less fun in Space Fluxx where there is only three in the deck and they are harder to get rid of.

You are right about the random nature of the game thoughand because of that I don't tend to recommend the games for adults, I do think that they are good games for adults to play with kids though.

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« Reply #20: March 06, 2015, 07:21:34 AM »
Yeah I'm sure Fluxx would be fine for kids - I'm just very wary of it because of the, "sorry, the game's over and you lose because of something none of us had any control over" factor.

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« Reply #21: March 06, 2015, 07:32:11 AM »
Another suggestion for games for six-year-olds, and everyone else really: Story Cubes.

Roll a bunch of picture dice, make up a story based on the pictures.

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« Reply #22: March 06, 2015, 07:42:33 AM »
Ah, I've seen those, I think one of his cousins has them.

On Hapimeses' recommendation last year I bought a copy of Once Upon A Time which is a similar sort of concept.  The adults found it hilarious but I think you need a very outgoing sort of kid to enjoy this sort of thing, I think we'll end up revisiting it in a year or two.

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« Reply #23: March 06, 2015, 07:47:17 AM »
I like boardgames, but my wife isn't much of a fan so I'm currently on hiatus while I wait for the kids to grow up a bit - snakes and ladders is about where we're at right now

My boy loves boardgames, but I've really struggled to find anything we can play together.  He's nearly six but very smart for his age, no problems reading etc but there seems to be nothing pitched at any sort of level between the endless branded versions of Monopoly and Scrabble that take up the shelves at Toys 'R' Us, and the kind of ferociously complex games aimed at adults described in this thread.  It's also tricky to find anything that's genuinely fun with two players.

Have a look at Tsuro. It's a wonderful game where you are a dragon sailing around the skies. You place lines down in front of you as cards and follow that line and you have to stay on the board while everyone else is putting down tiles around you for their dragon. You follow the natural path laid out for you. It is a wonderful, delightful and simple game that doesn't take long to play at all.

There's  also http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/133473/sushi-go Sushi-go which is a drafting game where you have to remember what's in the hands you've seen to build the tasty-ist sushi banquit you can! If you get some soba that's great, but if you play a wasabi before you play a nigiri that's even better!

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« Reply #24: March 06, 2015, 07:54:32 AM »
Have a look at Tsuro. It's a wonderful game where you are a dragon sailing around the skies. You place lines down in front of you as cards and follow that line and you have to stay on the board while everyone else is putting down tiles around you for their dragon. You follow the natural path laid out for you. It is a wonderful, delightful and simple game that doesn't take long to play at all.

That looks perfect.  Definitely going to look into this - thanks!

It's weird that there are clearly loads of great board games out there but nowhere to actually buy them.  As I said before, toy shops seem to be just full of the same five or six games endlessly rebranded with whatever's big at the moment - Spongebob Squarepants Monopoly, One Direction Cluedo etc.  I'm sure if they actually stocked stuff like Tsuro I'd have jumped on it ages ago.

Is this what Games Workshop is for?  I've only been in there once and it smelled of wee and was full of people painting goblins.

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« Reply #25: March 06, 2015, 08:02:45 AM »
There are a couple boardgame shops here in Edinburgh and a couple more in Glasgow. There must be some in London.

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« Reply #26: March 06, 2015, 08:05:11 AM »
Games Workshop is for Warhammer and Warhammer related products. It's exclusively and aggressively for Warhammer and Warhammer related nonsense. GW bought out just about every other board gaming shop and then set up their particular brand of adolescent-baiting crack and now that videogames are a thing in the mainstream Games Workshop is staggering around looking like it's just woken up from a coma, the whole world having changed while no one was looking. Games Workshop is a fucking plague.

I can guarantee you that since you live in London, there will be a specialist boardgamers shop within fifteen minutes of you. I am in Stirling and there's one.

If Tsuro is a really big hit, they released a sort of stand alone expansion pack called Tsuro of the Sea's, where you're fishing boats trying to stay afloat while the dragons that you were in Tsuro slumber! On a die roll of 6, 7 or 8 the dragons wake up and chase after you to eat your fish! It's got a little bit more random number generation in it (Tsuro is purely tile laying, TotS has dice rolling and tile laying) but it's still the same beautifully rendered, painterly style. Maybe one for when Tsuro starts to get a little old.

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Re: By popular demand - The Board Game thread
« Reply #27: March 06, 2015, 08:07:08 AM »
I have heard good things about Leisure Games. How easily can you get to Finchley Central?

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« Reply #28: March 06, 2015, 08:10:55 AM »
I have heard good things about Leisure Games. How easily can you get to Finchley Central?

That's about 5 minutes from where my parents-in-law live.  I foresee a trip there in the very near future!

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« Reply #29: March 06, 2015, 08:16:44 AM »
Survive: Escape from Atlantis is a great, action packed and tense boardgame that's solid for ages seven and up. You get to build an island with treasure on it and then the island begins to sink into the ocean! You have to get the treasure and then get to your boat to row back home but there's all sorts of things in the way! The island changes as you play (bits of it sink and become ocean) and even when you're off the island you have to deal with sharks and giant squid monsters. You can score points on the way off the island by being an awesome, adventurous Explorer and doing cool stuff but if the volcano at the Heart of Atlantis (must be said with capital letters on the H and A. Heaaaart of Atlannnnnnnnnnnntis!!!) goes off then it's game over  :o

Played it with two of my brother-in-laws to be (aged 11 and 7) and they had an absolute blast.