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Offline Mr Party Hat

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Sea of Thieves
« Topic Start: March 20, 2018, 11:01:42 AM »
YARRRRRanyone?

I've signed up for a month of Game Pass to give this a go, although it seems pretty divisive so far. Lots of belly-aching about it being No Man's Sky with pirates.

I just really, really want it to be fun. I've still got a soft spot for Rare, and I'm one of the few people who think they made some of their best stuff under Microsoft. (Nuts & Bolts and Viva Piñata. Not Kinect Sports.)

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« Reply #1: March 20, 2018, 11:22:09 AM »
When I eventually get around to setting up my new work laptop, I may indulge in this... maybe. Does buying a month of Game Pass get me the PC version as well?

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« Reply #2: March 20, 2018, 12:03:17 PM »
I really enjoyed what I played of the beta. As long as you don't go in with expectations of it being overly "game"y, I think you'll be fine.

It has no progression, to speak of. You rank up with quest factions, but all that unlocks is harder quests (and marginally fancier hats). There are complaints about a lack of content, but I think that's missing the point. It's not meant to be The Witcher with boats.

The best description I saw (I can't remember where) was that it's just a big trunk of pirate clothes. You put them on, then go pretend to be a pirate. You don't have to do anything. The only reason to play it is that you like the experience.

And, yeah, to get a marginally fancier hat.




When I eventually get around to setting up my new work laptop, I may indulge in this... maybe. Does buying a month of Game Pass get me the PC version as well?

Yes, it does.

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« Reply #3: March 20, 2018, 01:31:11 PM »
The best description I saw (I can't remember where) was that it's just a big trunk of pirate clothes. You put them on, then go pretend to be a pirate. You don't have to do anything. The only reason to play it is that you like the experience.

Yep, sounds fine by me.

The best bit of AssPirate 4 was finding new beaches and listenings to the exotic birdsong.

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« Reply #4: March 20, 2018, 06:12:25 PM »
Okay I’ve spent about an hour so far on that first little island... I can’t start any quests. I don’t know how.

I’ve even tried following a couple of guides - I have three voyages in my inventory, but then I can’t do anything with them. If I approach the map table it just says View Map. Any ideas? I don’t mind a bit of player freedom but this is a bit mental!

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« Reply #5: March 20, 2018, 06:37:42 PM »
The best bit of AssPirate 4 was finding new beaches and listenings to the exotic birdsong.

You clearly saw a different version of AssPirate 4 to me.

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OH YOU MEAN THE GAME.

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« Reply #6: March 20, 2018, 06:57:50 PM »
So I also got gamepass. This is still not doing it for me. Its like the game mechanic isnt fun they realised so they hid that behind obtuse navigation is my current thoughts.

Scour the big map to find the shape that matches the shape on your little map, sail there. Kill some terrble a.i skeletons (mine constantly run off in the other direction does that happen to anyone else?) - dig up a chest, not have any clue where you are meant to take it.

Playing Zelda or Mario and having an endless amount of directions and things that you just want to find and explore, and then moving to this I can't understand why everyone is so taken. I really want to love this like everyone online and on the podcasts I listen to does, and I can't.

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« Reply #7: March 20, 2018, 07:00:05 PM »
Okay I’ve spent about an hour so far on that first little island... I can’t start any quests. I don’t know how.

I’ve even tried following a couple of guides - I have three voyages in my inventory, but then I can’t do anything with them. If I approach the map table it just says View Map. Any ideas? I don’t mind a bit of player freedom but this is a bit mental!
Near the map table is a voyage table, where the crew can propose and vote on voyages.

If you're on a sloop, it's to the right of the door as you head to the map table. On the galleon, it's in the captain's cabin.

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« Reply #8: March 20, 2018, 07:29:11 PM »
So I also got gamepass. This is still not doing it for me. Its like the game mechanic isnt fun they realised so they hid that behind obtuse navigation is my current thoughts.

Scour the big map to find the shape that matches the shape on your little map, sail there. Kill some terrble a.i skeletons (mine constantly run off in the other direction does that happen to anyone else?) - dig up a chest, not have any clue where you are meant to take it.

Playing Zelda or Mario and having an endless amount of directions and things that you just want to find and explore, and then moving to this I can't understand why everyone is so taken. I really want to love this like everyone online and on the podcasts I listen to does, and I can't.

Chests go to the Gold Hoarders for rep and doubloons.

It probably could do with some kind of intro/tutorial, instead of just kind of dropping you in the world and leaving you to it. And I get that the limited number of "objectives" aren't going to be to everyone's taste, but it's not a game about objectives, and I don't think there's necessarily a mechanical issue - I love the experience of just sailing around.

If you go into it expecting Zelda, then, yeah - you're going to be disappointed. But it's not trying to be Zelda, nor do I think it ever claimed it was.

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« Reply #9: March 21, 2018, 01:59:39 AM »
No I get you, what I meant was that firing that up you played till your battery begin flashing, then moved to dock mode and kept playing as it immediately had you.

With this I took the Chest I dug up to a gold horder and it didn't show up as completing my vovage. Not sure if I was meant to return to the starting island or where I was but I then took another quest and they werent spawning maps to purpose, so I was effectively stuck/glitched with nothing to do.

The voices weren't great neither. I think I preferred the beta thing that didnt have them, just odd they have a few lines of dialogue but then the rest is text.

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« Reply #10: March 21, 2018, 04:01:54 AM »
Okay I managed to start a mission after a few hours (thanks guys!) and then sailed to an island. The water is pretty. The clouds are amazing.

I heard a chicken. I ran around in the undergrowth trying to find the chicken for half an hour. Now I have to go to work.

LET ME LOVE YOU sea of thieves. Why are you making it so difficult.

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« Reply #11: March 21, 2018, 04:34:16 AM »
I think chickens are usually on the beach. Don't know why. Maybe they're working on their tans.

With this I took the Chest I dug up to a gold horder and it didn't show up as completing my vovage. Not sure if I was meant to return to the starting island or where I was but I then took another quest and they werent spawning maps to purpose, so I was effectively stuck/glitched with nothing to do.

Any gold hoarder should work, it doesn't have to be the same guy. Was the chest you dug up from a Voyage, or a message in a bottle? Was the voyage only one map? Or did the map have more than one treasure chest marked?

Sea of Thieves doesn't really meet you halfway. You need to work (probably too much) stuff out yourself, and it's not hugely friendly about it.

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« Reply #12: March 21, 2018, 05:10:08 AM »
Sea of Thieves doesn't really meet you halfway. You need to work (probably too much) stuff out yourself, and it's not hugely friendly about it.

I think it shows just how much trouble Microsoft are in, exclusive-wise.

That's not a slight on Sea of Thieves. I'm sure once I've figured it out it'll be brilliant, especially with friends. But this is the game they're pinning all their hopes on at the minute, not to mention the success of their Game Pass. You'd assume that, given the choice, they would have chosen a game that was super accessible and assured of mass-market success.

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« Reply #13: March 21, 2018, 06:00:13 AM »
I was interested in Sea of Thieves until I heard it was by Rare. I've always found their games to be soulless. But then, I loved No Man's Sky so, you know, my opinion on this might be more irrelevant that usual.

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« Reply #14: March 21, 2018, 07:20:43 AM »
I liked No Man's Sky well enough, but I think it struggled too much at what it was attempting. Too many worlds had too similar creatures, biomes, etc., and finding the resources I needed for upgrades became a slog very quickly, especially if I found myself in a system without Chrysonite. See? I still remember what it's called, that's how fucking long I looked for it.

Sea of Thieves does fewer things, but I think it does them much better. Sailing is complex enough that you have to pay attention without being obtuse; I like working out treasure maps and riddles, and as long as you can find the animals you're looking for (I made a map...), those aren't much of a chore. I haven't tried the Order of Souls stuff yet, but I would agree that combat off-ship is by far the weakest part of the game, and it's really easy to get overwhelmed, especially if you're playing solo.

The group-based nature of the thing helps - I find it chill enough sailing around solo, but having people to chat to is nice. In a party, it's as much just a place to hang out as it is a game to play. If you find the mechanics fun (I do!) it's great.

Sea of Thieves doesn't really meet you halfway. You need to work (probably too much) stuff out yourself, and it's not hugely friendly about it.

I think it shows just how much trouble Microsoft are in, exclusive-wise.

That's not a slight on Sea of Thieves. I'm sure once I've figured it out it'll be brilliant, especially with friends. But this is the game they're pinning all their hopes on at the minute, not to mention the success of their Game Pass. You'd assume that, given the choice, they would have chosen a game that was super accessible and assured of mass-market success.
Well, this is only the first - all their first-party games are coming to GamePass at launch, right? Crackdown 3 is likely to make a bigger splash, at least in terms of immediate impact - it's much more of a game, first and foremost, rather than a place to chill out and play pirate. I imagine that loads of people will bounce off Sea of Thieves, but those that stick around will do so for a looooooong time.